Postby ALACRescue on Sun May 13, 2012 2:47 pm

After complete a very successful PnP Transport...I want to say a big thanks. Paws up for the pilots that helped Bentley from OH to NJ.

Being a former private pilot, it was easy translating air conversation when talking to the pilots and talking animal rescue to those involved. Is there anyway we can have some of our rescuers meet with pilots to learn their views of transport. Maybe those rescuers joining PnP should take some time at the airport with a pilot or FBO. I am going to highly recommend this to all my rescuers nationwide. I know even just sitting at an airport and listening to the air chatter may be helpful for rescuers to learn a little more about a pilot's world. I was lucky to have been born into a family of fliers and spent lots of time at the airport.

For pilots, rescuers are very familiar with car sickness and we often utilize Benedryl, Rescue Remedy, DAP or Lavender Essential Oil to control tummies not used to this new idea of flying. We may want to recommend that rescuers provide pilots with some Benedryl for the flights. Vets can recommend what dosage should be utilized. Those of us in rescue need to take that lead. A little lavender essential oil on a collar or crate goes a long way. Best way to avoid air sickness is pre-planning. If a dog gets car sick...guarantee air sickness will follow.

Everyone in Rescue tries to keep our animals free of parasites utilizing Capstar and topical treatment for fleas and ticks. One item that I recommend everyone buy is Siphotrol. Vet's use it in their offices, because fleas and other parasites will be brought in by all animals at one time or the other. It is a spray that is safe for humans and animals once the mist dries. It provides a barrier for approximately 30 weeks. I use it in my house and car. Here is a link for buying ... Spray.html.

I welcome that any pilot who has questions contact me. I learned everything the hard way and if I don't know, someone on our rescue network would.

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Postby Eric27 on Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:19 pm

As long as we are putting our two cents in, I’ll jump in.
As a pilot I look for postings with airports local to me. Then I look at the destination airport, if it’s halfway across country I normally don’t even open it. If it looks reasonable, I will start looking at the post. The next thing I look at is the number of animals and their size. If these are left out that’s normally my next stopping point, or if there are many or too large. I fly a Cessna 172, probably one of the most popular planes out there. I also drive Toyota Pickup, my pick up has more room in it that the plane. So if you are trying to transport two dogs over 50 lbs I’m out. Some pilots may be willing to put more in their plane and that’s up to them. I have a medium size create that fits well in the back seat. I have transported two 35 pound dogs in it with no problems.
Next is the weather, It’s hot out there and most small planes don’t have air conditioning in them so I don’t want to be up there for hours, nor do the dogs. So I’ll plan an early morning flight of about 2 hours max. Flying at 98 knots that puts about a 200 mile limit on me, but I have meet other pilots and passed off the dogs for another leg.
If I’m flying 2 hours out then handing off a dog or two I plan on three hours before I start my return flight. So a 200 mile trip turns out to be a 5 to 6 hour day. For most low hour small plane pilots that a full if not long day.
The best way to get a pilot, or two, to respond to your request is to have as much information posted. Look at 200 mile jumps and see if you can find foster homes along the way. Look at the pilot list, I enjoy getting requests directed to me from that list. Make foster arrangements ahead of time, if a pilot can fly further then you can cancel the foster.
Also, I see some postings that say flying would be better than driving, remember, summer heat, no air in most planes. We can’t pull over if an animal is getting sick and may not even know until we land. Last summer heat produces thermals and that can be a rough ride.
We love to fly and we love to do these transports, keep the lines of communications open and lets transport more animals.
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Postby admin on Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:14 am

We appreciate everyone's "two cents"! We all have a lot to learn about each other, pilots and rescues. If you can take a few minutes to read many of the posts, FAQ's etc. on this forum you will learn alot. Pilots are willing to teach you about aviation and rescues are willing to teach pilots about rescue. If we all listen, learn and work together, the program will continue to grow in a positive manner and more animals in desperate need will be helped.

A big thank you to all our volunteers!
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Postby deeogee1 on Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:02 am

admin wrote:
Hi there, it can be confusing at first until you learn some basic aviation terms. At the top of the Ride Board: Animals Needing Transport is a topic called Link to find airports, nautical miles, etc. Lots of good input there from pilots.

I use to find the airports close to the flight path needed. You can see on the straight line map that you referenced the cities along the route. Use those to find the airport code, i.e. what the airport is referred to as. Always put a K in front of three lettered airport codes. Once you find the sending airport on airnav, go there and scroll down. On the right you will see a place to calculate distance between airports. Start by entering the total distance from sending to receiving locations and then break it down from there.

I am sure others have input as well. Airnav is a free site, others you need to register for. As a reminder, there is a lot of good information at the top right of each forum board page. There is an FAQ section for pilots and one for rescues/others. Pilots have a plane icon next to the name and rescues have a life preserver ring. It is very beneficial for all new members to read through both. Remember, it is always pilots choice as to airport, day and time for the flights they volunteer for. Most will choose to fly into smaller general aviation airports. However, for distance purposes, you can still use the larger city airports as references.

Thanks for all you do!

I start by going to Kyler's nearby airport locator to find the nearest airport. Enter the city & state and you can choose the distance to cover. A list pops up with closest to farthest airports (general aviation incl) within your specified distance. If there is one listed I'm not familiar with, I check it out on Airnav to see the condition & size of the runway(s).
Then I go to the Great Circle Mapper (another free site that I use for finding distance) with the airport codes chosen. By plugging the airport codes into the box marked "Paths" and checking "nm" (nautical miles) from the drop down box under "Path Distance", you will get the distance(s) for 1 leg or a multiple leg trip if you list each airport sequentially. You also get a map of the trip.

Clear as mud??? ;)

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Postby Purpleskies2012 on Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:23 am

Hello all,
I am trying to get a rescue transport for my puppy in Junction Texas to Longview WA. I am in need of help to correlate this. This is new to me of course and I need to ensure the safety of my puppy Potter Pooh. I need guidance and direction. If anyone can help me through the proper channels and ropes please contact me. Thank you.
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Postby MDShamrock on Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:32 am

Thank you all for the info here. I'm brand new to using PNP and see that I already goofed by not putting the correct info in my subject line (either someone very kindly fixed it for me or the system is set up to right errors leading to lack-of-information problems). :D

This all makes a great deal of sense. I still have some questions but will read through the info here before I post them. No need to reinvent the wheel or ask someone to answer what's already been answered.

Thank you!
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Postby kate.and.paws on Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:42 pm

As a rescuer who just organized my first PNP mission, I must say that the directions listed on the main page were very clear. ... r-rescues/
There are precise directions as to what to put in the subject line, etc to make it clear & easy for pilots to know if they can assist with each case. Hopefully you don't have to reinvent the wheel. I know that in the flurry of excitement, the temptation may be there to just put it out quickly to see if you get a tug on the line - but the instructions are so helpful & do their job to streamline the process.
Well done, pilots & rescues!
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Postby kate.and.paws on Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:44 pm

Purpleskies2012 wrote:Hello all,
I am trying to get a rescue transport for my puppy in Junction Texas to Longview WA. I am in need of help to correlate this. This is new to me of course and I need to ensure the safety of my puppy Potter Pooh. I need guidance and direction. If anyone can help me through the proper channels and ropes please contact me. Thank you.

Information can be found at the following links - just a quick read & it's easy from there... ... r-rescues/
Best wishes!
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